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ahriman1

The deepglow skate deck did look really cool. I've built modified versions of the [[vito, thorn of the dusk rose]] and [[garth, one eye]]. Both do what they are trying to do quite well. The ghalta vehicles is also hilarious, have a buddy that plays a version of it. Maybe better to wait for kamigawa neon dynasty to see what that seemingly vehicle based precon will have though.


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[vito, thorn of the dusk rose](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/f/0fe79ee4-c3f3-4a6b-a967-203ca3b70ee5.jpg?1594736442) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=vito%2C%20thorn%20of%20the%20dusk%20rose) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/127/vito-thorn-of-the-dusk-rose?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0fe79ee4-c3f3-4a6b-a967-203ca3b70ee5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/vito-thorn-of-the-dusk-rose) [garth, one eye](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/2/3/23774462-9f17-4b50-a2ac-b2edd706bbfe.jpg?1626098353) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Garth%20One-Eye) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/197/garth-one-eye?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/23774462-9f17-4b50-a2ac-b2edd706bbfe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/garth-one-eye) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


mdevey91

I built the deepglow skate. The first time I played it I won by comboing out in a really fun way, I loved it. The second time I played it I just durdled and did nothing the whole game.


ahriman1

That degree of inconsistency is also definitely a thing in the garth deck, where if you get some of the particularly quality cards you're gonna go CRAZY. Or you can get none of the enablers and fall apart lol.


mdevey91

Yeah, that's my experience with the deepglow skate. It has some cards that are really important and if you don't draw those or they get disrupted you really struggle.


Piva01

so do you recommend it or not?


mdevey91

I haven't played it enough to give a recommendation. What I can say is when it works it's very fun you pilot. I'm just not sure how consistently it works.


Piva01

thanks!


FiddlerMTG

How did you alter Vito’s build? I’m curious because I got into Commander via Mitch, and my two decks currently are his build of Vito and Oloro (my favorite deck rn). I’m alway down to tune though.


ahriman1

If I remember right it was pretty much entirely "add removal" - the deck was super light on good interaction. Dont have the decklist atm, but can post it later.


FiddlerMTG

That was my initial reaction the the original deck as well, Id welcome a decklist!


ahriman1

Sorry forgot until just now, here's the list: https://archidekt.com/decks/639669#Vito\_Lifegain\_Pings


BeoWulf1040

[[zada, hedron grinder]] is absolutely one of my strongest decks. I built mine after I saw it wipe the table on the Command Zone. Then I saw Mitch’s episode on it. Absolutely wicked.


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[zada, hedron grinder](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/a/baa36309-4bcc-4455-813a-c0243b906792.jpg?1562440241) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=zada%2C%20hedron%20grinder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/156/zada-hedron-grinder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/baa36309-4bcc-4455-813a-c0243b906792?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/zada-hedron-grinder) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


ToaztyWaffle

which episode on the command zone


tx0p0

[this one](https://youtu.be/MCO49ceGgz8)


BeoWulf1040

When his turn starts at about 18:00 in to the video is all legit, lol. Mine has gone off in similar ways and can easily take over if left unchecked.


ToaztyWaffle

can I look at your decklist


BeoWulf1040

I don’t have one made for it. However if you watch the commanders quarters episode you get a great idea for what it needs. As well as the command zone game. Lots of cheap creatures, lots of cheap instants and sorcery’s. I have a lot of token making things in mine. A TON of cantrip stuff like “target creature can’t block. Draw a card.” When you have 9 creatures that’s a lot of cards. Same with mana adding cantrips. Target Zada and copy for everything. [[Runaway Steam-Kin]] is a must for this deck. It works quite well with it because you usually end up casting tons of spells per turn.


OrvillePeck

Are you talking about the $15 deck?


BeoWulf1040

I have no idea. I saw some fun cards between the two shows and used what I had to build it. It’s wicked though.


UntapUpkeepScoop

I built his 17$ Brago deck and upgraded it slightly and it’s so much fun to play


ogpablo247

Same! I've upgraded it significantly since I built it, but the first time I played it I won with just the $17 build


SebsKill

I built [[Tayam, Luminous Enigma]] when I saw his video on it, but I have had to modify it to both power it up for my pod while at the same time make it harder to go infinite. But damn, that deck can snipe the win out of nowhere. Really enjoy playing it.


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[Tayam, Luminous Enigma](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/5/05b837a2-5773-4340-87f9-b4d6a43deb27.jpg?1591234301) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tayam%2C%20Luminous%20Enigma) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/16/tayam-luminous-enigma?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/05b837a2-5773-4340-87f9-b4d6a43deb27?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tayam-luminous-enigma) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


shorebot

Before Golos got banned, he had a build that had a budget manabase of mostly basics. That worked really well for me and the deck ran smoother than I could have ever expected. I still use that template to this day on my Esika deck, and will likely do the same once I have a Codie list I'm happy with.


paulyd191

His [[Marchesa, the Dusk Rose]] is really solid imo. I can’t play it anymore in my normal playgroup because they were tired of me stealing their combo pieces and using them to combo myself


MobPsycho-100

This is my favorite commander so please forgive me for being so pedantic (on an MTG subreddit?!) but Marchesa is the *Black* Rose. [[Elenda is the Dusk Rose]]


paulyd191

Ugh thank you, too many roses! I did say I hadn’t been able to play her in a while!


MobPsycho-100

You’re fine bud - this is more about me being a pedantic nerd than you confusing two very similar card names (that both enjoy aristocrats and +1/+1 oddly enough!)


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[Elenda is the Dusk Rose](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/5/a52af49b-cfeb-47a8-9ce5-5d35bfa9eb75.jpg?1555040816) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elenda%2C%20the%20Dusk%20Rose) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rix/157/elenda-the-dusk-rose?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a52af49b-cfeb-47a8-9ce5-5d35bfa9eb75?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/elenda-the-dusk-rose) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Piva01

since she is your favourite commander, do you recommend her over the queen version?


MobPsycho-100

So my honest answer is it depends on what you’re trying to do. If you really want the monarch effect to show up every game, want white, want to play superfriends, tokens, deathtouch tribal, mardu human tribal, politics, or just love the sick art - play Queen. If you want a commander that has powerful synergy with the deck, requiring some set up but building an aggressive and extremely resilient boardstate and that supports a wide variety of strategies (aristocrats, arc bound, combo, theft, several tribal builds), with an unusual mechanic for it’s colors (Grixis +1/+1 counters) taking advantage of ETB/death triggers to create a unique and powerful value engine, and creates an interesting tension stemming from life total management that feels similar to something like Modern Death’s Shadow then play The Black Rose, then check out r/marchesatheblackrose for more discussion and advice.


Piva01

thank you, I think I'll go black rose!


MobPsycho-100

Awesome! Happy deckbuilding!


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[Marchesa, the Dusk Rose](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/a/ca6cf5ba-0bad-4f7d-83b9-c092c2586131.jpg?1562623376) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Marchesa%2C%20the%20Black%20Rose) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c17/177/marchesa-the-black-rose?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ca6cf5ba-0bad-4f7d-83b9-c092c2586131?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/marchesa-the-black-rose) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


AintEezyBeingCheezy

I bought the mono green storm deck with devotion Nylea in the command zone. It was definitely a much different experience playing the deck than I originally imagined. Most games, I end up having my board heavily scrutinized as it is reliant on putting together a bunch of combo pieces in order to pop off. Different players have different tolerance levels of this assembly and end up pointing their removal my way, because they feel that if they don’t, i would storm off and play solitaire, to which they respond with resounding surrenders. So it definitely didn’t feel good to play. Tl;dr Built Nylea mono green storm, regretted it after a few games, took it apart immediately


Hechie

Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker 100% cheap deck and Pretty strong and Easy to upgrade and make playable in most play groups


Intelligent_Ant7678

[[The Gitrog Monster]] deck he put together is pretty good imo


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[The Gitrog Monster](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/7/5790dd89-2be5-4a77-9450-2d3c1422bfc9.jpg?1576385351) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Gitrog%20Monster) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/soi/245/the-gitrog-monster?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5790dd89-2be5-4a77-9450-2d3c1422bfc9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-gitrog-monster) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


King_Of_The_Squirrel

I don't know his version of Gitrog... but Gitrog is utterly stupid, so this gets my upvote


Intelligent_Ant7678

It's pretty good!


Pillow_Fort_Master

I’ve built his [[Xantcha]] and [[Etrata]] decks. I’ve really upgraded Xantcha but kept the intent the same. I enjoy the decks but I have seen people get annoyed at them as they have offbeat tactics.


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[Xantcha](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/9/89b03b9a-7e20-47cb-bc64-23513acea855.jpg?1592710322) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=xantcha%2C%20sleeper%20agent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/50/xantcha-sleeper-agent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/89b03b9a-7e20-47cb-bc64-23513acea855?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/xantcha-sleeper-agent) [Etrata](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/a/fa36b142-e67e-49da-9080-c5994e275266.jpg?1572893618) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=etrata%2C%20the%20silencer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/grn/170/etrata-the-silencer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fa36b142-e67e-49da-9080-c5994e275266?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/etrata-the-silencer) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


wonderful_mystery

I have his “upgraded budget” Kenrith Political control deck. The deck is very powerful and kind of deceiving. People are initially wary of Kenrith, as they should be, but once they see you only playing a bunch of basics for lands, they tend to forget the powerhouse you have in the command zone when set up. I don’t really do much politicking with it though as my playgroup has learned not to trust my deals (meaning I almost always get more benefit than I can give them, not that I break deals).


wonderful_mystery

[[Kenrith, Returned King]]


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[Kenrith, Returned King](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/6/56c1227e-bea7-47cb-bbec-389a3d585af5.jpg?1637568481) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kenrith%2C%20the%20Returned%20King) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/303/kenrith-the-returned-king?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/56c1227e-bea7-47cb-bbec-389a3d585af5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kenrith-the-returned-king) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


ThadeusBinx

[[Hofri ghostforge]] has been a ton of fun, made a couple of upgrades with cards I already had. Really fun and unique way to play. Almost everyone I played against had no idea their creatures were going to be stolen and sacrificed. Ton of fun.


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[Hofri ghostforge](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/d/bd8deecf-eded-418b-ac4c-5c3e8f54e86d.jpg?1627429212) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hofri%20ghostforge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/192/hofri-ghostforge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bd8deecf-eded-418b-ac4c-5c3e8f54e86d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/hofri-ghostforge) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


andecase

I also got the Hofri one. What upgrades did you do?


ThadeusBinx

Off the top of my head, added mana crypt for one of the mana rocks. Swapped out [[plea for guidance]] for [[enlightened tutor]]. And I think I swapped in a couple other upgraded sac outlets.


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[plea for guidance](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/1/d/1d1d6d76-f399-475a-b5cd-544bd7c6d967.jpg?1593091549) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=plea%20for%20guidance) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bng/24/plea-for-guidance?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1d1d6d76-f399-475a-b5cd-544bd7c6d967?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/plea-for-guidance) [enlightened tutor](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/c/0c9ebec9-3474-4062-9607-2e2a72f78299.jpg?1580013657) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=enlightened%20tutor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/9/enlightened-tutor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0c9ebec9-3474-4062-9607-2e2a72f78299?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/enlightened-tutor) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Myriadtail

His [[kykar winds fury]] list is just genuinely wholesome. A good kids table deck that can spiral into bonkers territory when it starts rolling.


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[kykar winds fury](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/9/594cb7dc-ea88-4909-ab40-1d40fecc9817.jpg?1592517535) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kykar%2C%20Wind%27s%20Fury) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/212/kykar-winds-fury?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/594cb7dc-ea88-4909-ab40-1d40fecc9817?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kykar-winds-fury) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


JeanNiBee

[[Zada, Hedron Grinder]]


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[Zada, Hedron Grinder](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/a/baa36309-4bcc-4455-813a-c0243b906792.jpg?1562440241) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Zada%2C%20Hedron%20Grinder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/156/zada-hedron-grinder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/baa36309-4bcc-4455-813a-c0243b906792?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/zada-hedron-grinder) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


omni_ous

I built lots of his deck in my beginning days of commander, the ones I still play are 4 color Omnath, the hydra tribal one, and tayam luminous enigma. I played alot more of his decks but at this point they are far from recognition due to my changes to them.


Piva01

Sorry, what is the hydra tribal? \[\[Zaxara\]\]?


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[Zaxara](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/0/c07de85d-343e-49e0-b438-ddf1342ab654.jpg?1591234329) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=zaxara%2C%20the%20exemplary) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/20/zaxara-the-exemplary?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c07de85d-343e-49e0-b438-ddf1342ab654?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/zaxara-the-exemplary) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Cthullu1sCut3

I played Ghalta vehicles for a bit, but while fun, it's pretty ineffective. I ended up being angry at it and building a normal Ghalta deck because the deck wasn't consistent and it was too dependent of opening hands, while also don't working well with a ton of mulligans


PanthersJB83

The newest Wort the Raidmother one from today looked spicy af. Played against a very similar but higher powered deck yesterday and it is very strong.


sp4cetime

Gotta check that out. I’m torn between wort or Kaza for Fireball Tribal


Crucifix1233

I built his [[Progenitus]] and [[Child of alara]] decks and then modified them a bit. For example, In Progenitus, I added In [[Mirari’s wake]].


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[Progenitus](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/8/a8a5d0ba-bcb1-41db-80dd-ad22b8408105.jpg?1561968078) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Progenitus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mma/182/progenitus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a8a5d0ba-bcb1-41db-80dd-ad22b8408105?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/progenitus) [Child of alara](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/6/863f701f-fba2-48db-95ef-0926986cdac9.jpg?1562802245) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Child%20of%20alara) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/con/101/child-of-alara?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/863f701f-fba2-48db-95ef-0926986cdac9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/child-of-alara) [Mirari’s wake](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/2/329f8f3d-2fe6-44fa-802f-0c56e3f9998e.jpg?1626100762) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mirari%27s%20Wake) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/291/miraris-wake?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/329f8f3d-2fe6-44fa-802f-0c56e3f9998e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/miraris-wake) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Amaxyn

I've got a modified version of his [[Elenda, the Dusk Rose]] deck sitting in my cart right now. I've always been a huge fan of token decks, gonna toss in Sanguine Bond and Exquisite blood as an extra win condition and call it a day


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[Elenda, the Dusk Rose](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/5/a52af49b-cfeb-47a8-9ce5-5d35bfa9eb75.jpg?1555040816) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elenda%2C%20the%20Dusk%20Rose) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rix/157/elenda-the-dusk-rose?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a52af49b-cfeb-47a8-9ce5-5d35bfa9eb75?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/elenda-the-dusk-rose) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


FlusteredCustard13

Idk if it's his strongest, but I love to give his [[Niv-mizzet, Parun]] Wheels deck some props since it was my first commander deck and won me the first game I ever played. I've upgraded and changed a few things around since then, but I still keep the focus on wheels instead of just cheap draw spells and cantrips.


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[Niv-mizzet, Parun](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/f/6f3d2dc5-7b9d-4af6-9f3b-4de90fbf63c9.jpg?1572893767) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Niv-mizzet%2C%20Parun) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/grn/192/niv-mizzet-parun?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f3d2dc5-7b9d-4af6-9f3b-4de90fbf63c9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/niv-mizzet-parun) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Seth_Silverwing

Personally for me I loved his Damia deck, she is an awesome commander and the deck is great at ramping her out and keeping your hand full!


Overall-Sun1022

I have built [[Borborygmus Enraged]] and [[Darien]]. There are non-budget cards the decks need in order to compete with even today's precons but they work well. For Darien the Nitpicking Nerds list is close to what I have. Basically I took out the anthems since I put in skull lamp and then put in more ways to hurt myself with pain lands. Borborygmus Enraged want Life from the Loam in the deck. Fiery Emancipation also was a good add.


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[Borborygmus Enraged](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/6/8644c60f-7d06-4026-bcf3-df054701ca0a.jpg?1561834730) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Borborygmos%20Enraged) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gtc/147/borborygmos-enraged?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8644c60f-7d06-4026-bcf3-df054701ca0a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/borborygmos-enraged) [Darien](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/d/ed5f96a4-55e0-4ae3-bd78-f01703649e9d.jpg?1562442656) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=darien%2C%20king%20of%20kjeldor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/9/darien-king-of-kjeldor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ed5f96a4-55e0-4ae3-bd78-f01703649e9d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/darien-king-of-kjeldor) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Intrepid-Artichoke25

I built his [[jhoira]] deck but modified it to make it my own. It’s got the reduction and stuff like future sight etc as well, and I love janky artifacts so I put a bunch of artifacts people probably never heard of in it lol The weather light one not the one fetcher linked


Darkhellxrx

[[Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain]]


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[Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/f/4f77d23d-6257-4dae-b585-29f45f13f2e2.jpg?1599708079) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jhoira%2C%20Weatherlight%20Captain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/203/jhoira-weatherlight-captain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f77d23d-6257-4dae-b585-29f45f13f2e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jhoira-weatherlight-captain) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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[jhoira](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/a/aa6c3c8a-aa35-46b3-8769-27b4244457b0.jpg?1619404030) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=jhoira%20of%20the%20ghitu) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/256/jhoira-of-the-ghitu?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aa6c3c8a-aa35-46b3-8769-27b4244457b0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jhoira-of-the-ghitu) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Blazorna

Actually have the 99 Land deck with [[Child of Alara]] and the $17 Zurgo deck. Right now I want to modify them to retain the original strategy, but differentiate them to be seen as my own deck instead of a decklist that I copied. For the Zurgo, I added Jokulhaups, Worldslayer, and some indestructible Mana sources to still function and blow up EVERYTHING.


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[Child of Alara](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/6/863f701f-fba2-48db-95ef-0926986cdac9.jpg?1562802245) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Child%20of%20Alara) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/con/101/child-of-alara?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/863f701f-fba2-48db-95ef-0926986cdac9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/child-of-alara) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Masternoob411

I took his [[Archelos, Lagoon Mystic]] deck and tweaked it slightly and it's incredibly fun! Giga ramp landfall is a good time. I am currently looking to buy his list for Codie as well, but right now I'm taking cards from his Toxrill list for my own less budget version


PIZZAHUTCH

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/7--mYmNHd0Gi5v8WBtypUQ Here’s my Toxrill list if you need inspo


Masternoob411

Hey, thanks a lot! I'll definitely give it a peep, that's so nice of you!


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[Archelos, Lagoon Mystic](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/a/eafb8740-1bab-4f5e-96d1-79f1f04cc0d8.jpg?1608911032) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Archelos%2C%20Lagoon%20Mystic) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/268/archelos-lagoon-mystic?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eafb8740-1bab-4f5e-96d1-79f1f04cc0d8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/archelos-lagoon-mystic) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


WinglyKing

Of all the decks I have from CQ, of his design I can recommend two: [[Atla Palani]] and [[Tibor and Lumia]]. The first, since I got it, has become one of the most powerful decks I have. It's essentially a changeling combo deck that has the potential to burn and/or mill people out at instant speed. As for the other, Tibor and Lumia was my deck tech request a few years ago and it's a fun spin on the typical UR spellslingers. I also had him do a deck tech on [[Shaman of the Great Hunt]] which he built very different than how I did, but overall it's a fun value beats deck.


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[Atla Palani](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/6/f6aa473b-85cd-431d-844b-218368fe955e.jpg?1568003640) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=atla%20palani%2C%20nest%20tender) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/38/atla-palani-nest-tender?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6aa473b-85cd-431d-844b-218368fe955e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/atla-palani-nest-tender) [Tibor and Lumia](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/1/4/149ce3cc-5df6-4158-b732-5bd2c1b3007f.jpg?1593272822) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tibor%20and%20Lumia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gpt/135/tibor-and-lumia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/149ce3cc-5df6-4158-b732-5bd2c1b3007f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tibor-and-lumia) [Shaman of the Great Hunt](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/f/bfbd8cd1-465c-4501-94ba-5a3402f30ded.jpg?1562829430) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shaman%20of%20the%20Great%20Hunt) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/frf/113/shaman-of-the-great-hunt?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bfbd8cd1-465c-4501-94ba-5a3402f30ded?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/shaman-of-the-great-hunt) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


skisandpoles

I liked his Arixmethes deck. I liked it so much that I made one of my own.


KingMasteron

I recently built is derevi pingers list, and it's a lot of fun. I actually think it's a decent base list for Derevi. I ended up going with less pingers and other stronger tap abilities, like [[beguiler of wills]].


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[beguiler of wills](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/2/e21ae024-d565-48a1-8004-5aa320a5d24d.jpg?1562948843) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=beguiler%20of%20wills) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dka/28/beguiler-of-wills?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e21ae024-d565-48a1-8004-5aa320a5d24d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/beguiler-of-wills) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


MightyJL

I haven’t watched his channel since he tried to destroy commander and start his own format. There are plenty of better content creators out there building budget decks.


Skaro7

I unsubbed from Commander's Quarters when Mitch pissed himself about Walking Dead Secret Lair, tried making a new format as a knee jerk response, in addition to attacking the RC.


WalkingMammoth

This doesnt answer the question


guzvep-sUjfej-docso6

I mean first of all, sure whatever, you didn't answer the topic. second of all, I really like seb mckinnon, to the extent where I'm willing to tolerate his anti-vax opinions becuase of his incredible art quality. It's similar with CQ, in that while his mtg/edh politics and issues are a bit inflamatory, his deck ideas are still great, and provide a fresh touch to budget mtg. ​ Btw, also loved Mitch's zolo deck more recently, and his zedruu deck, which I enjoyed playing with my group a ton


weggles

Seb is antivax???


guzvep-sUjfej-docso6

yep sadly


Piva01

Sorry, with zolo you mean \[\[volo guide to monsters\]\]\]?


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[volo guide to monsters](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/9/c9ae01f9-7461-47b4-aa1e-93bd6ff1bf9e.jpg?1627709617) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Volo%2C%20Guide%20to%20Monsters) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/238/volo-guide-to-monsters?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c9ae01f9-7461-47b4-aa1e-93bd6ff1bf9e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/volo-guide-to-monsters) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


guzvep-sUjfej-docso6

yes mb


metroidfood

> I really like seb mckinnon, to the extent where I'm willing to tolerate his anti-vax opinions Say it isn't so


guzvep-sUjfej-docso6

unfortunately it is, I was shocked when I found out. you can see it by checking his twitter followings and tweets.


King_Of_The_Squirrel

[[Sidisi brood tyrant]] is a great mix of budget/fun/power


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[Sidisi brood tyrant](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/f/ffa2b070-952e-4242-83bb-3e73135ceeeb.jpg?1562796690) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sidisi%2C%20Brood%20Tyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ktk/199/sidisi-brood-tyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ffa2b070-952e-4242-83bb-3e73135ceeeb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sidisi-brood-tyrant) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call