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Rafael in contemplation of having trash for parents.


shep2105

They seem obsessed with making sure we're looking up someone's nostrils


Kindly_Put_5065

🤣🤣🤣


peepeehalpert_

Poor kids. All that privilege won’t erase the lack of parenting.


btl_dlrge1

They’ll all get in to ivy league schools and become self made actors lmao


Electrical_Dare_1178

Sadly, education has zero value in this family....I'm not talking about "book learning" either. The parents place no emphasis on anything but consumption.


Kindly_Put_5065

LMAO is right. They won't get into ivy league schools.


peepeehalpert_

Honestly I don’t think most of them will get an education. They’ll be like Ireland. Such a waste. If I had those resources I’d get a damn PhD


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peepeehalpert_

100%. Even if you’re family is rich and famous you still need the grades, SAT scores and extra curricular activities.


kikijane711

Why do u worry about going that far in debt unless u want to be a lawyer or doctor? U got inherited money & maybe some connections…. Invest. Play stocks, invest in a business, work on sets & learn the biz, if u r interested. Nothing says these kids need to do 4 year route… or any kid for that matter. College is a ruse in many ways…. Depending on what u want to do!


peepeehalpert_

Education is an incredible thing you can do for yourself and if you have money you have that privilege to be as educated as you want. Education is never a ruse and I’m neither a doctor nor a lawyer and I’m glad I got my degrees. Nepo babies need to stop using their parents’ connections and make a name for themselves. “Playing stocks” isn’t as easy as you make it seem and it really doesn’t contribute to society. Why should all actors’ kids be handed film careers?


kikijane711

Of course education is & if u have cash do it but if u don’t or have aspirations that don’t fit w a 4 year degree, don’t go! College as necessary for everyone is… well…. Not the case. I say this as someone w a 4 year degree, my husband too, w a college fund for our son but my husband’s degree has determined his income tier. I’m a writer. I never landed a writing job bc of my degree. For some people & fields it is a wise investment but not for all. It varies. If RAF wants to be an actor or producer or entrepreneur he can learn & do, not get a degree perse. U need a degree for some resumes but not all.


SexySiren6

Fully agree


peepeehalpert_

What I’m saying is they can get an education for the sake of education and find something they’re very passionate about. Like become an art historian or a research scientist. We don’t need any more famous people’s kids becoming movie stars


kellsells5

The Nanny "Hey Raf can you FaceTime your dad in the apartment upstairs, let him know you got home okay. He's too old to walk down and meet you for a snack".


Lost-Computer-8064

This poor kid has the worst name of all of them🥲.


RazzmatazzBig2187

I think of the boys RoMAYo has the worst name. And then there’s Larry Jr. Why didn’t Hillz just spell it Elaria? Then she wouldn’t have to do the stupid (and highly pretentious) lower case “i” ?? She’s such an imbecile!.


IWillPortalToYou

It doesn't look pretentious imo. It looks uneducated or childlike. :P Also, Elaria would be way prettier! I like that.


kpiece

I think i’d give that dubious honor to poor Illaria (otherwise known as Lowercase Larry), named after her “mother”’s much-maligned fake name. Then again Eduardo Pau (named after his mother’s ex-boyfriend) is an awful name too. And so are Leonardo, Rafael, Romeo, and MariLu. And the reason these names are so bad is because these poor kids were given these names as part of their “mother”’s Spanish con. That she made her kids part of her fraudulent fakeness is unforgivable.


caffeinated_ferret

I think Romeo got the short end of the name sticks.


kikijane711

Nah. Romeo Beckham. Celebs give their kids names like Apple & Moses (both in imho are 1000 times worse than the Baldwinitos). Apple Martini sounds like a dessert! Ilaria is the worst bc she’s like Hilarious Jr. So bad!


catch_me_inside

Don’t know why, but I sense Rafa and Alec are the only ones who share a deep connection in this family.


kikijane711

Alec remembered his mother in such a negative, embarrassing light. Focusing on her shortcomings & how it humiliated him. Rafa feels the same about phony, drug addled, lunatic Hillary. Looks at her w pure distain. Alec’s mom struggled & didn’t deserve it. She was on her own w many kids, no help, struggles etc. H has had every opportunity in life… from great educational options to plastic surgery to Alec’s nepotism angle handed to her. Private chefs, Nannies, exposes, expensive clothes & stylists, PR people, a yoga career then correspondent on extra just served up to undeserving her etc etc etc & she can’t or couldn’t pull off anywhere near an A-game, even w Alec’s influence & money behind her. It’s pathetic. & RAF knows it!!


basilbrazil

What is the arrow pointing to? How do we known this proves Alec is in another apartment?


Comprehensive_Leek94

It’s a FaceTime screenshot.


basilbrazil

And? Are you suggesting an actor has never been away from their family? I hate these people but a Facetime screenshot proves literally nothing.


Comprehensive_Leek94

I suggested nothing. I was just answering your question as I thought you were genuinely asking. Won’t make that mistake again.


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basilbrazil

See who sitting in what? They have several properties, is he not allowed to go to any? I don’t have Instagram and don’t care to research this crap. There’s a lot of stuff I can get on board with but this picture proves absolutely nothing.


LionOfJudahGirl

If I had all those kids and was his age, I'd be offsite too just for some peace. It has to be so loud in their apartment


basilbrazil

I get it, but this picture proves nothing other than he’s FaceTimed his son once.


LionOfJudahGirl

Agreed


kellsells5

Who's hiring this clown?


basilbrazil

OJ Simpson has a very active social media presence. You can’t use logic here


smaczna8184

This pic is sad to me


Shannonbonejones

Oh yeah, I used to FaceTime my drunk dad from his separate apt that was connected to my house ALL the time as a kid. Great memories. 🙃


AffectionatePoet4586

In that regard, Rafa may be lucky and doesn’t yet realize it, despite the pain etched onto his face. If a drunken parent is FaceTiming him from another apartment, he can’t knock Rafa across the room.


Odd_Pop5287

Is his name really Rafa?


smaczna8184

It’s Rafael. They use Raf or Rafa, or Faf for nicknames


Fatmouse84

Rafael I believe


SwimmingBeneficial93

These people have a life misleading the public with a “house of cards” reality.


According_Gazelle472

Yep,and it is very precarious too.


risqueclicker

Peepaw was probably holding up an IPad to the phone to show Rafa a James Brown video fresh out of jail. Rafa has that "What da fuq is this shit?" face on.


kellsells5

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Pleasant_Choice_6130

Lol he really does


Pithinthewind

¡Viva Rafa!


SnooOpinions2473

This poor boy 😢


Pokerlady16

I hacked at my bangs last month with a regular scissor, and they still came out better looking than poor Rafa's bangs or haircut they gave him.:-( poor kid. Is she just hoarding all the money for her own " beauty needs" ?🙄🙄


Icy-Significance-449

Or for moncler


Pokerlady16

Yes the jackets LOL. She's certainly not spending it on more leggingos,.. they live in Manhattan, for God's sake. Sad she can't even get the kid a decent haircut


Icy-Significance-449

It is but I know a narc bio mom with four kids and they ALWAYS looked unkempt and sloppy, meanwhile she traveled, had plastic surgery, promoted she is the best mom and showcased her “business.” Its super super sad and I wonder what the long term effects will be of growing up with a (or two) narcissistic parents.


realvctmsdntdrnkmlk

Go to r/raisedbynarcissists and behold what happens to us. It’s criminal what these narc parents do to the economy, alone.


Pokerlady16

:(:(


DeeSusie200

Where is this apt? I thought in the same building. He can’t get off his fat old ass and give the kid a hug and talk to him in person???


Maxter_Blaster_

He’s hiding. I cannot imagine how overwhelming and exhausting it would be to interact with all his kids. That is not healthy for anyone as kids require so much personal attention from their mom/dad. They are crazy for having a family this big. You can throw Nannie’s at them all day but they still are going to want you right there with them.


IWillPortalToYou

Honestly think it's mostly HB he's hiding from.


Pleasant_Choice_6130

Absolutely. Kid's crave their parents' love, affection, and attention. Even when those parents are negligent, bad people, or mistreat them... It's just how most children are 😥


bigdill123

It looks to me like he's disassociating, which is a classic complex trauma response. Nice work alecasshole. You say contemplation because that's what you *want* to see. It might behoove you to see your children for who they *are*, not for who you and the idiot want them to be.


Pleasant_Choice_6130

Yes. He's gaslighting. This child looks troubled and sad. Alec is telling you what he WANTS you to think: "contemplative" (not just "thoughtful") hyper-aware adult and intelligent little Raphael. Such nonsense. Go talk to your child in person and give him a hug, you phone-addicted lunatic.


WavyLady

The pictures of me as a kid look like this and I was doing exactly that.


AffectionatePoet4586

Exactly. Most dangerous place I’ve ever been.


bigdill123

Same.


George_GeorgeGlass

They really treat these kids like adults. Neither parent knows how to relate to them as children. “In contemplation”, the phone call from New Mexico “does Carmen know what’s happening? She needs to know”. They’re little kids with parents who don’t know how to treat kids like children. Imagine AB speaking to his children the way he pontificates on IG. He thinks he’s making them intellectuals by treating them as such. It really doesn’t bode well for their future


Pleasant_Choice_6130

It's a classic Narc move to have a "little honey" aka surrogate wife or husband or bestie IOW a child you treat like an adult spouse or #1 pal: a confidante and forced ally. Very sad.


AffectionatePoet4586

In addition to forcing the child to have *no needs at all.* Because they don’t get met.


SweetP503

Rafa, BLINK if you need our help!!!


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Pepino Nation loves you and we're rooting for you, Rafa! FYP!


TJCW

Hope Rafa liked this attention from his dad…he always looks so sad :/


MissPlum66

I debated posting about this but I had a dream about him a few months ago. It was some sort of party, lots of people and kids. Hilary was there and I think it was her aunt’s house and they were arguing but she was in the background. I was talking to Rafa and I said something like, “hey, you need to know a lot of people love you and are rooting for you.” His face lit up and he said “people love me?” all excited and I woke up and I was sad. I rilly rilly hope those beautiful kids are ok.


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Weird you dream about strangers kids.


Clear-Theory7541

Weird you’d make it about something it’s not. Says a lot more about you.


[deleted]

Still think it’s weird and stop trying to make this about me. I don’t dream about kids not in my life.


MissPlum66

Yes, we can all control what we dream about.


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Well then this is when you say to yourself “maybe I’m too invested in these kids and I need to seek help.


MissPlum66

Maybe you’re in the wrong sub


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No I just don’t dream about strangers’ kids.


SunflowerJYB

Well he sure is a cute kid.


LaBrant_Fisher_3103

Poor Rafa...


Pleasant_Choice_6130

"Feel sorry for me! Look how sad my kid looks!" This man has no low. Just when you think he can't possibly stoop any lower HE DOES.


Adventurous_Art9732

I feel so sorry for the Baldwin kids. They are growing up internalising strangers' gaze. They have been primed to do so since birth. Do they even have any self perception that isn't viewed through the lens of strangers. Every tender moment, every humiliating moment, every vulnerable moment, every bodily function is pimped out for strangers' predilection via their parents' Instagram. Why are Alec and Hillary so determined to perpetuate the vicious cycle of identity issues, self esteem issues and body dysmorphia. Can't they just let their children *be* without offering their every waking moment up to strangers? I'll eat my hat if any of them emerge from their childhoods without serious emotional and psychological issues.


bigdill123

There is a saying-- and I think it's true-- that no one escapes childhood unscathed in some way. And I believe that part of the reason the Baldwin children will have issues is because what they're experiencing is insidious & they will be gaslit into believing it didn't happen.


Adventurous_Art9732

I totally agree with that assessment.


Advanced-Object4117

Great comment. It’s not hard to do. I have never posted any photo of my kids on SM. It is easier on me than ‘curating’ them for content. That’s putting my moral issues aside. I wonder in their heads what the real justification for this exploitation is? Is it pure narc ‘use’ of their kids with no analysis?


Adventurous_Art9732

Yes, I think they exploit the kids for narc supply, pure and simple. Shockingly, even attention directed at their children from grubby men "in dark rooms" doesn't bother them. Attention is attention. Pre-Griftmas, they were exploited for monetary gain also but that revenue source has dried up. Not for want of trying on their part...


BabygirlMarisa

I think it's exactly that. Great comment.


BabygirlMarisa

Also... Don't curate kids. Let them be children.


Advanced-Object4117

Thank you and no kids should be forced to smile and perform in matching flannel pjs or all beige outfits so that others can judge. Why have they not analyzed their decision? Why not question if it’s good or beneficial for all these strangers to know their kids names, their ups and downs, their address? Isn’t Aleeec supposed to be a thinking man? I think straight up Narcissism explains a lot.


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Prudent-Property-513

Wasn’t the whole point that he didn’t know he was being filmed?


RokyPolka

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Pitiful-Enthusiasm-5

I remember hearing that Rust was going to resume filming this past February, in Idaho or Wyoming (NOT at the original filming set in New Mexico), so it’s possible that Alec was away from home working on the movie when he face-timed Rafa.


Pokerlady16

I just read last night that the movie is going to resume filming in Montana on a movie set there. And scheduled to start later in April. Still confusing it sounds like it will start around the same time that Alex case in New Mexico will be heating up


Pleasant_Choice_6130

Yes; 60 minutes Australia I believe actually did a tour of the new location


IlCircos

Message for Alex: Stop putting your children on Instagram. He doesn't look "contemplative". He has special needs that you and your wife seem to ignore. Legit why are you posting a facetime call to the gram. You need to get off the internet. Seriously.


bigdill123

Didn't he say not too long ago that people need to get off the internet and get a life (or something akin to that) and then two seconds later he begged for followers for his wife? What's interesting is that for someone who considers himself such an intellectual, it doesn't even occur to him that he's a complete hypocrite.


Pleasant_Choice_6130

THANK YOU THIS 👆💯


eLizabbetty

He meant "the little people" should just consume the internet and let the "influencers" talk.


bigdill123

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄


SunflowerJYB

Stop posting. Both of you. Unless it’s a periodic charity event or something. Lay low and shut up. Post only to your inner circle


Kindly_Put_5065

"Why can't you come get me dad?". Stuck in hell with narc mom, worse of two evils. Dads drinking, moms making fake accounts, kids with hired help rotating in and out of their lives. Poor Ralphy. Edit how you say... spelling


horsetooth_mcgee

"Rafael in distress" fixed that for you Pops


IlCircos

per usual


ChakaKohn2

Alec came from a big family. Back in those days, the vast majority of dads weren’t present. They worked, came home, had a beer and retreated to the den to watch TV. Stay at home moms made sure dinner was on the table and ran interference. I don’t know his exact circumstance, but that was the norm in the 60s and 70s. He probably figured Hillary was young and eager to keep her lifestyle so she’d do everything, and he was rich enough to throw money at the situation and phone in his parenting. Between the Pandemic and the Rust tragedy, Alec is in a living Hell that he created all by himself.


AffectionatePoet4586

Alexander Rae Baldwin Jr. came home to his wife and six kids… suspiciously late for a schoolteacher. It’s very ‘60s. My father would retreat to his library, his sizable cocktail tumbler in hand.


nelnikson

as another hilarious pepino says: I love that for him! 🥒🥒


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😹


Steaknkidney45

Raf ain't looking too thrilled to hear from his old man.


Flaky_Seaweed_8979

How traumatizing any camera opportunity must be for him. Just knowing anything recorded can get posted to millions of people without your consent. He looks to be really tired of it.


Numerous-Net3482

Rafa is trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with his dad.


justusethatname

That sweet boy deserves better haircuts.


tandooripoodle

He deserves better parenting. They all do.


Alarmed_Two3894

True. Looks like lockdown home haircut. And no, I'm not being rude about Raf


According_Gazelle472

Do they stick a bowl on his head and cut around it?


Afraid_Range_7489

Using left-handed paper scissors.


According_Gazelle472

Blunt kiddie scissors!


justusethatname

Exactly the look here!


According_Gazelle472

Lol.


Pisspot16

Is dirty the bowl


According_Gazelle472

Lol.


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Lol


OddYam2337

It feels like she gives them shitty haircuts just because


Kindly_Put_5065

He won't be a show pony so she degrades him


Flaky_Seaweed_8979

My heart goes out to him.


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…she’s a sadist.


Kindly_Put_5065

Or she has Burger king give him fancy haircuts that requires styling and products to look good and he's a typical kid who doesn't GAF or want to style his hair. Looking at those choppy bangs


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Looks like she does it herself 😹✂️


Kindly_Put_5065

Yes, her or the nannies. She probably doesn't want to waste money on her kids and get as much production out of the paid help


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💯🤢


Own-Dog-2911

Aww poor Rafa. I get it. I check out too when that man starts his shit.


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Motherofoskar

I don’t know if you will see this but there is a whole community that is rooting for you. You are not alone. Stay strong.


CoCo_Fran

**Tell me you don’t live with your kids in the sky orphanage you pay a fortune for - without telling me you don’t live with the kids in their sky orphanage…**


IlCircos

Look look! I facetime with my son! Sit the fuck out Alex. You're gross.


Laughter_Medicine

How long have you known? Always?


GlobalSmobal

They wouldn’t have had 2 never mind 7 if he had to live with all of them.


sagesheglows

Exactly - he was calling his first, only daughter a rude, thoughtless pig and he wasn't even with her at the time!


CoCo_Fran

100%!! That Old man wasn’t going to live with more than 1 kid. He was rarely around as Carmen was being raised “by her staff,” as Alec admitted. He hated being a father to Ireland and he was **OLDER** having her (he was 38/39). He was well into his 40’s and a shitty father to Ireland and in his 50’s when he called her a thought little pig. So. 60 was the time he was *finally* going to get the hang of *fatherhood,* as surrogates pumped out his spawn yearly for 9 years 🤣🤣 Foolish asshole.


Flaky_Seaweed_8979

Wild to me that someone in their 50s could leave that voicemail to a child.


Ok-Hovercraft6372

He should take no advice from his father🤡


Severe-Specialist-96

Why TH did he post this??


Difficult_Lunch_4406

🤷🏻‍♀️


IndustriousWombat

Contemplating his escape plan from this crazy family. I would too!


Hefty-Cicada6771

Right. Wondering how to get into someone's trunk to get off Gold Base.


Sarah_smiles_twice

Aaawwww we see you Fafa!!!! 💙


Ok_Practice_195

Fafa 💀💀💀 Papi viejo doesn’t know how these newfangled whiz-bang things called “phones” work. Hilaría didn’t have these in her pueblo. Help Leonetta!!!


OddYam2337

LEONETTA


Sarah_smiles_twice

IF you knew how hard I laughed right now Practice!!!!!! IF you knew how many times I watched Kyle Dunnigan "LEONETTA!!!!!!!" video I would be mortified!!!! I hope Kyle gets paid for each view!!!! 🤑


Pleasant_Choice_6130

The original AND Kyle's interpretation are TOO DAMN FUNNY for words! 💯👏🖤They will never get old!


Ok_Practice_195

Grathias for the premio Sarah! 🥰🥒🥒🥒 Kyle Dunigan is genius. I have laughed so hard at his Alec impressions to the point where I get strange looks. So worth it.