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QualityVote

/u/Affectionate-Fly1018, the users have spoken. Your submission is not a Hol'Up.


MagicalMoosicorn

I've seen this scene so many times and In just realizing it's a beam of light and not a wooden beam. This whole time I just assumed the second guy was afraid to cross cause it was dark and he couldn't see the wooden beam well and thought he'd miss it so the other guy offered tonlitht his way. Now I realise it was a beam of light and I feel dumb.


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CMCLD

>You cut one of the biggest Holups of the story. ?? You realize you're not responding to OP right?


editable_

That guy is probably a karma farming bot. His reply is literally a crtl+c/crtl+v of [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/vhx89g/can_you_understand_the_joke/ida9lbh/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


Kiki_Lpt

He could have just knocked him out by choking him, right? You won't necessarily die if you are choked. You're actually still alive after being choked just as long as your wind pipe or neck isn't snapped or broken. What actually kills most people who were choked isn't the choking but the fact that they weren't placed properly after being KO'd that their tongues block their throats thereby making them lose oxygen and then eventually dying. It's the same as when you're choke holding a person. They're actually still alive and will wake up a few seconds later if you let go right after they pass out. But stay in that position a minute or so longer then you would have effectively killed them by denying oxygen to their lungs.


editable_

Why is this guy being downvoted? Almost everything he said is entirely correct.


L1K34PR0

Technically yes but if you've seen or read "the killing joke", where this scene comes from, you'll know that's where joker did some of his most horrible atrocities in the history of him and batman existing, and in both the film and comics, it is heavily implied that batman finally broke and chokes the joker to death, breaking his one rule to not kill.


editable_

Oh, understood. Now it makes sense


Mr_E_Nigma_Solver

I remember reading this as a kid. I always thought it was fucked because it's implied Bruce kills the joker after this joke.


hmmmmga

Yeah it looked like batman would strangle him after the end


CMCLD

He does.


sanjay_i

Really ? i remember the movie ends here


hmmmmga

[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/vhx89g/comment/idaauu9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Edit found video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PppqpubWkHs


Sheenuh_Shine

I mean, it is called The Killing Joke


Alzhan_Void

Finally, Batman grows some balls.


MiszynQ

That's some Killer Joke


raul_lebeau

A killing joke


MiszynQ

even better


Yall_look_nice

In the literal sense it’s that the guy thinks he can walk on light after saying “do you think I’m crazy?” Metaphorically it’s that Bruce can move on from his trauma, Joker can’t


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You can’t walk on light If he can could the other guy would just shut it off I don’t know I’m stupid


the_real_duck

The joke is that they both fully believe you can walk across a beam of light, because they both just broke out of an asylum and are therefore crazy.


hmmmmga

Or that the 1st one is talking about a wooden beam and *the crazy* think he's talking about a light beam


Kiki_Lpt

Unless we're in a Forerunner installation in Halo, that's pretty much the point


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Far-Ad-7876

It is you are correct


555nick

It is not.


AquaSauce51

People not understanding downvoting you. Yes "do you think I'm crazy" it's part of the joke but it's not why that is the joke Joker said in that moment, and not why it's funny to both Joker and Batman


MurderousSolutions

It is not. The joke is pretty much analogous to Batman and the Joker. Batman would make it across to the next rooftop, Joker is convinced Batman would give up on him part way through. Joker is never making it across.


Kiki_Lpt

No, it just means the 2nd guy was stupid to think he could walk on light and was afraid that the 1st guy would turn off the light and he will fall if done so not realizing you'd just fall after you step off the roof.


That_Illuminati_Guy

No, dude. That might be the deeper meaning behind the joke, but thats not the joke itself nor the punchline


Reallysuckatever

You can’t walk on light


Stagamemnon

Yeah, cause people are always turning it off! Not a safe gamble!


SauravKumaR301

The joke in itself reflects more of a psychological values to the characters. Batman and Joker are the two crazy person who needs escape from the asylum of their mental dysfunctional state. Batman is the crazy who jumps across cause he was brave enough and trying to figure life out in his own way but Joker is afraid to do so. So when the other crazy guy suggested to shines off the light across the gap, it reflects to the fact that Batman offers help (which even he wasn't certain exists or not) to Joker. But Joker being afraid of being hurt again and left mid-way is scared of help.


AWOLcowboy

Or maybe it's the other way around. The Joker is the one who jumped across, he lives life how he wants and not in fear. Where as Batman is restrained by morals and laws, the fear of tarnishing the symbol. Batman will always be trapped, he doesn't really have choice.


SauravKumaR301

I understand how this is possible interpretation but just before this scene batman asks joker to leave his current life behind and come with him and try to assure him that he'll help him in any way possible. https://youtu.be/l3DWn2OPwvM


Embarrassed-Egg8531

and then people belittle cbms


Wunjoric

I think the light metaphor is about him being un-helpable not his lack of trust for Batman’s intentions. The second part although is (him turning it off halfway).


voidbringer19

What's the music name?


elemde

Dido - Thank You


voidbringer19

Thanks for telling me!


AnAsianDudeInReddit

isn't this from Eminem's Stan?


elemde

Stan samples Dido's song


DarthCovisious

yep slim had done a collab with dido for stan, but dido came out with her song before stan was even made. i dont exactly remember how long before the song was even shown on mtv or vh1. but it happened.


Redditartedededed

I sample granola and sausages at Costco


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YRR6969

Ayo hold up wait a minute...... something ain't right


Kai2546

But it is and dont come with things over jokes with auzwitz


xscumfucx

The 2 guys were escaping from a “lunatic asylum” + when the one guy told the other his flashlight plan the other guy said “do you think I’m crazy?”. They’re escaping from an asylum. They’re both crazy.


nad_frag

Then he told the same joke to jason. It was the last time joker laughed.


Next-Associate-5137

Why the musik ?


Reallysuckatever

Is not so bad


mrsmilestophat

Man this movie is really sad. While joker is your comical evil, he really was a common man with one bad day too many


Fantastic-Emotion343

I guess I can but I am not sure.


LePhildo

u/savevideo


tv_trooper

Ive been pretending to get this joke for years.


That_Illuminati_Guy

They both broke out of an asylum. One guy jumps a gap to another roof, the other doesnt jump because hes afraid of falling. The one who made it across suggests using his flashlight so that the other one can walk across the light beam (totally ridiculous idea, you cant walk on light). The other responds "do you think im crazy?" which makes you believe hes not stupid enough to think he can walk on light. But follows with "you'll just turn it off when im half way across". So turns out he actually also thinks he can walk on light, and hes crazy too. Because they broke out from an asylum, makes sense they're crazy.


Dusk4474

The two escapist are batman and joker, joker doesn't trust batman


droppingbodies247

The joke is that both guys think that walking across a beam of light is possible lol it's actually pretty fucking funny


WhitestWhiteEver

You cut one of the biggest Holups of the story. The part where Batman kills the Joker. They laugh as the screen fades to black and then Joker stops laughing but Batman continues. It's up to the audience on whether or not Joker's dead or not but it's one of the possible outcomes. Comic had it as well. It's part of why it's so iconic.


That_Illuminati_Guy

But what about the next episode/chapter of the comic? Does the joker never appear again?


WhitestWhiteEver

Was a standalone arc that gained enough popularity that it jumped into other canons where Batman didn't kill him. Batgirl became Oracle because of this comic. It's like Dark Knight Returns or what ever the Batman v Superman movie is loosely based on. in that, Vigilante's are illegal and Superman is the one who enforces it for President Reagan. Superman cut Green Arrow's arm off for not complying and it ends with Batman "dying" after he beats the shit out of Superman.


Xanthor_Gaming

You can't walk across a "beam" of light. Ha ha


LupusGR

2 lunatics cant help each other escape their fate


Fransjepansje

I do not but really want to.


Mr_Dr_Rocket_Surgeon

The guy rejects the plan to walk across the flashlight beam not because he realizes it is impossible to walk on light, but because he suspects his fellow inmate will turn the flashlight off when he is half-way across, thus causing him to plummet to his death when the "light bridge" disappears from underneath him. They are both crazy (or stupid), so they both really believe they can walk on a beam of light, but it is a lack of trust that foils the plan, not the fact that it is an idiotic plan.


Fransjepansje

I only now realize that they meant the beam of light hahaha. Thnx for the explanation!


HopeItMakesYaThink

First dude was able to jump really far, farther than the other at least. The first one was Superman. He was being a jerk again. Just like the Empire State Building fiasco…


mega_fail_man

u/savevideobot u/savevideo


Ravan_00

That first guy is batman and second one is joker


Nikovash

The killing joke


elgato_elcid

This comic is dark as hell. Batman strangles him after this joke.


Then_Establishment60

u/savevideobot


AranyCynarA

I cried.


TomahawkIsotope

The two crazy people laughing at a joke about two crazy people


matlawish

Pretty metaphorical scene where Batman finally understands he has to kill the Joker so he does


UserPhantom

and this the batman who laugh was born


Zombarney

Is this Batman the killing joke?


McNuggetsauce69

Isn't this movie where Batman and Batgirl-


pranesh_himself

Completed the sentence


Yashra1

The best love story in history. And the best comic ever.


Ubermensch2745

What Im interested now is who made it across the gap and who couldn't cross it. My interpretation is that since Joker is the one telling the joke, he thinks he is more free from his own prison (which they both have). He thinks he's more free cuz of his "nothing matters and it's better to embrace chaos" interpretation to his tragedy.


Wunjoric

How can i save this to my phone


HamstarVegas

This joke was used in a Filipino movie but instead of his buddy turning it off, they said "What if the battery runs out when we're half way through?" That shit is just hilariously stupid


Nakosuke75

okay, gotta hand it to joker here, that was pretty funny


OrangeXJam

*Batman laughing* Mom come pick me up I am scared


DentrixFlawless

u/savevideobot


DentrixFlawless

u/auddbot


PenguinsTookMyNips

My personal take is that only one person actually escapes and the other is the reason he's in the asylum in the first place. He's 'crazy' after all. The conversation is between a broken man and his imagination. But he's not broken enough to he oblivious to it. He knows if he trusts himself, he'll die.


TMANBULLET

Well friends here’s some knowledge, at the very end when the video cuts, Batman snaps jokers neck knowing there’s no saving him. Therefor this making it jokers “killing joke”


khemikalxxx

[Not true](https://batlore.wordpress.com/2022/06/02/creators-on-the-ending-of-the-killing-joke/)


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No.....


mutated-crusader

This is very much wrong but I understand why anyone would think this would be the case. Because in comic Batman holds Joker and then it zooms to the floor but there are still laughing marks. After that part it zooms further to floor but laughing marks go away. Like I've said I understand but it's not true, look at the link u/khemikalxxx posted below.


EliteGamer5484

Is there a full video?


TMANBULLET

It’s a full movie, Batman the killing joke. It doesn’t show but that’s what happens


The-Evil-Mastermind

The joke is subverting expectation, using wordplay and breaking the 4th wall depending on which way you take it. When one guy comes with the solution of walking on light from the flashlight, you think to yourself that that's nonsense because you can't walk on light. Then the second prisoner calls him out on it "Do you think I'm crazy?! [You can't walk on light!]" But instead he says that he believes he could walk on the beam of light, but is instead afraid of the first prisoner turning off the flashlight. Which is of course nonsense in itself while seeing the nonsense of walking on light as perfectly fine. The word beam is used to describe a ray of light as a light beam, but beam by itself can also be understood as a large, sturdy piece of wood. Meaning that the first prisoner might be referring to a wooden beam, not the light beam. Alternatively, they are of sound mind and the second prisoner is afraid that the first one would shut off the light before the second one could cross the wooden beam, therefor potentially misstep and fall to his death and we just laughed at completely sound reasoning or imagined that a person would think of walking on a flashlight beam. So who's mental now? Them or you?


YachtingChristopher

Hahahahahaha, that's amazing.


pLifer

The punchline is batman and joker tagteamed Robin after this scene


leafblade34

What's the name of the song?


Diabolic_Master

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aQ-QX9cb0k


gizmo1526

https://youtu.be/1TO48Cnl66w


imnotafamousperson

Haha reading the comments I don't know if people are trolling or if the world just turned stupid. The joke is that you can't walk on light so the guy thinking his friend would just turn the light off half way through makes no sense... and that is the joke.


DueViolinist9

Thanks for clearing that up


syonboom

ill explain this joke it not a joke its just funny to batman cuze he's kinda crazy too so when the two people were tryna escpae the other one said ill turn on the torch and the other one said no ull switch it off in the middle and ill fall the message is that two crazy people can help each other cuze even if he wouldn't switch the torch of the other guy would die its kinda complicated but theoretically both batman and joker are crazy that why batman laughed at jokers joke


DueViolinist9

Bruh


syonboom

ikr big brain time ![gif](giphy|v3LxMGs7TObBO5Uqik|downsized)


Gunter_de_Sake

u/savevideo


DentrixFlawless

u/auddbot


QualityVote

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