By - The-Backgrounder-
Notice how OP hasn't replied to this one yet, checkmate.
The Fish is too powerful
Stock scattergun can deal damage outside of melee range
But can stock scattergun count hits for you. Thats what i thougt
What does counting hits matter if you're gonna die because you're within melee range and because scout is a squishy class? owned liberal
Youre telling me you havent beaten a non light class to death with fish cause you are running circles around them. Typical weakminded skaterdude
but fish has a faster hit rate and combined with scouts speed and ability to flank combined with the shitty broken overpowered melee system can destroy any unsuspecting opponents
also the killfeed publicly announces the enemy's humiliation
Damn bro, you bluepill cope mald sigmaball ratio-d him!
ben shapiro'd him with FACTS and LOGIC
This wasn’t meant to be taken seriously
I wasn't being serious either 😭
Ok but is scattergun **fish**
Aight U got me there
Fish has jiggle physics
Fish was going to be my answer, glad it's already said and at the top, as it should be. Best weapon in the game.
Stock has a bigger clip
Does that matter because of the faster reload? And lets not forget about.... THE HOPS!
Unusual Orbiting Scout
soda popper can deal the same amount of damage as stock faster
But the Soda Popper can burst light classes
Vaccinator. Because if PabloGonzales2004 uses it its complete trash but when Papa Sandwich uses it its overpowered
Scattergun is more fun to fight because it doesn’t nerf 75% of the damage you can do
I was playing a 2fort Community Server last night. One that's pretty competitive deathmatch.
Anyway, I main engineer and am pretty good at him. I was having a good time with Widowmaker / Pistol / Gunslinger and just dming and racking up kills.
Then the medic (which because 2fort isn't very well designed, fighting medics is already pretty cancerous [to elaborate all the classes in the game are very balanced overall, and as much as I love 2fort, its awful design makes every class very exploitable and cheap if you play them that way]) pulls out his Vaccinator.
I did 4 damage on meat shots. *4 damage* It's somehow way more frustrating than Uber, where you do no damage.
A stock Ubercharge isn't earned in 10 seconds like it is with the Vaccinator. That's why it's so busted, it is imo a direct upgrade from stock.
It lasts 2 seconds compared to stock. It isn't complete resistance nor does it make you invulnerable. Yes it's a huge upgrade but stock outperforms it in most situations (stock most of the time being the only weapon usable in any situation, while not always the best)
I feel like it’s a more “Git gud with it.” Medi gun compared to the other options. Especially if you’re fighting enemies that do two different damage types and you’re hot-swapping resistances.
That being said, it is infuriating to play against if the medic *is* good. Especially because it’s impossible to take him down on your own short of switching to spy exclusively to deal with them. You kind of need to make an agreement with another damage class to consistently deal with them. Which is harder than that automatic contract medics make when they pocket someone.
Oh no, stock is still better, its just that the vaccinator suffers from a similar problem that the wrangler suffers from, you counter it with slightly above average team coordination while the enemy really only needs to press a few buttons to do that. For example, a sniper and a pyro could drop the med with some teamwork; ya see, when someone is inflicted with afterburn from specific weapons (mainly the flamethrowers), two additional affects are present, continues heal sources are reduced by 12 (this means level 1-2 dispensers and vaccinator overheal can't even heal until the effect is removed) and resistances are reduced by 20%. This doesn't just apply to the 75% damage resistance of the vacc, it also applies to the crit immunity of the vacc.
In other words, if you flame a bullet resistant med and your sniper lands a fully charged headshot, he can do 120 damage which should finish the med off after you flamed them. The problem here is the stupid high amount of coordination required to pull this shit off compared to "I used vacc and pressed m2 and sometimes R"
It's not a direct upgrade unless your team is really bad and all playing one class. Like seriously it's only one type of damage
You can switch type and pop again to stack the resistances. This does make it burn up the charge faster, but there’s nothing stopping you have having all 3 resistances at once
Last I checked, the vaccinator doesn't have melee resistance
Anytime I run into a Vaxx medic I always think about this. How they lack any melee resistance. So I become Demoknight with the sole purpose of killing the medic. But alas, I am terrible at Demoknight so it takes like four respawns for me to get them. And in the end, I die anyway and they're back in the game like 20 seconds later with another vaxx charge so it feels like I accomplished nothing.
better off going spy, you have a bit less survivability, but it's at least a one-hit kill if you're able to not get fucked by other people showing up or garbage hitreg, and you can deal with the pocket too
Why are you playing comp deathlatch on a 2fort server
It wasn't a "Competitive Match" so to speak. Just 2fort with people that took the game seriously and were very good, the score set to 300 captures (it was a 24/7 server), and no random crits or bullet spread.
Side note, the game is a little too consistent with crits off, I love the guys in the server and play there regularly, but I wish they'd add crits back in. I used to despise them, but consistency is boring (I know this is a shit take). Also random bullet spread is important for balancing high damage hitscan weapons. Guys will spam the Brass Beast on this server and wreck house.
Random crits benefit the people who are already wrecking house. The more lwell someone is doing, the more likely they will to get a crit
I know, and I'm, all thing considered, pretty good at the game. I don't really mind getting destroyed, I just like the unpredictable nature of random crits. I know it doesn't make any sense, and it's more balanced, but it's so much fun pulling out my wrench and one shotting a spy with a crit.
So yeah, bad take but it's what I like. I play a lot of casual.
But that lucky crit pipe out of the spawn doors that clears out the group of enemies camping it can easily flip that around
>It's somehow way more frustrating than Uber
As an engineer you kind of just have to learn to accept that stock ubercharges will pretty much always manage to get kill your sentry destroyed. With Vaccinator, which you don't see as much, you can destroy the sentry all while the engineer kind of just has to sit there, slowly watching the damage numbers tick up, loosing more and more hope for his buildings survival.
To top that off, you were using the widowmaker, a gun that returns metal based on damage, and uses said metal as ammo. The medic basically went fuck you, I'm going to severely nerf the gun you're using. With a stock uber, a medic is able to be killed quite easily, and must practice uber timing. With a vac medic, you have a harder time killing them in general, with the Vaccinator providing a passive buff against incoming damage to both the medic and his heal target. He can then spam ubers as much as he wants, because he's got fucking four of them.
>it's somehow way more frustrating than Uber, where you do no damage.
Its that way because it gives you the illusion that you're actually doing damage
I use the vaccinator and bro just use phlog
heard PabloGonzales2004 used atleast 6 times, where did the name come from?
Its the bame soundsmith uses for new players because he actually ran into a demoman named that and basically carried the kid as medic
Wasn't that _ Scoober _ ?
You are talking about the guy who uploads twice a year, lazy purple. Not complaining tho, he is really good at sfm stuff
Steoreotipcal noob name
My stock scattergun is better than your stock scattergun
Strange and named “:D”
Mine is strange festive and named “studmuffin”
mine is named "god hates frags"
Stop it, he is already dead
Mine is festivized strange broken bones field tested. Also it’s named “neon induced murder rampage”
you mean festivized, mine is just strange festive, the limited time ones from 2014
How about your stock scattergun vs your stock scattergun?
It’s simply too close to tell but I’d probably favor my stock scattergun
Sun On A Stick. I’m not lying.
Im so sorry
It’s a hard life
Hey at least you die to Pyros _slightly_ slower now
*crits you with stock fire axe*
Well shit there's no resistance for that
Sun On A Stick Battalion’s Backup Combo
I’m just imagining a soldier blow his horn, followed by an army of default scouts with just Sun On A Sticks
didnt even reply to this one lmao
The claidheamh mor. The extended charge duration is fun and has secured me a lot of kills. Also, go go extendo reach.
Stock scattergun is so good scout doesn’t need extended charge
Backburner but with a fart killsound
Wait someone beat you!
Yeah, but stock scattergun with fart killsound is better
You can kill people with the stock scattergun
You can’t kill people who use it sometimes
I can kill people with the medigun by not healing them does that count?
The scattergun isn’t a reskin
but penis gun
The Original isn't a reskin either as is shoots from the middle instead of the side
The Original isn't a reskin, it's the ORIGINAL!
baby faces blaster. i like going fast as possible an it gives me an excuse to use bleed weapons
A stray pistol shot removed the boost
makes it more fun, i enjoy bullet hell games
They ruined the weapon, it was great now it sucks
Try in mvm at max speed upgrade and the penetration upgrade, it’s super fun still
No firing speed nerf on sg
sg is still slower firing speed than tomislav
Scattergun deals damagepp
I’m utterly devastated. My hats are forfeit and the entire Medical-Moe fortune is to be left to u/The-Backgrounder- for his triumphant words of wisdom.
Please, do leave me to sob in shame with my PDA. I need to erect a rancho relaxo to cry myself to sleep tonight in fear of your stock scattergun’s superiority.
Damagepp reigns supreme
Sentry kills scout. Boom. Easy.
Stock SG is more fun to fight
That's just rude
stock scattergun doesn't make people hate you
Dragon’s Fury just got fixed
The stock scattergun has always been normal
Stock scattergun has an australium variant
Mild annoyance but grudgingly agrees.
stock rocket launcher
The scattergun is faster and doesn’t harm you if used up close
But can you rocket jump with scattergun?
Scout has double jumps
The shortstop because the fast fire rate and fast reload really help in a pinch
Stock is more reliable because of more damage ans you can close the mid range gap easily
And supposedly due to a coding oversight random crits are burst not singular
I would use the shortstop more if I could actually hit shit with it.
Banned in competitive(and for good reason)
Festivized Professional Killstreak Strange Scattergun (Hales Own)
Scout doesn’t piss in jars
I said sniper rifle, not jarate.
Scattergun is more original, since it’s not based on an existing weapon
Me: ***POLYMORPHS INTO DEIMOS DEAD BODY***
"Hehey, look, you shapeshifted into a dead guy"
Ooh this'll be difficult. I'll just list a few, and you can pick one at random if you find this comment.
Stock shotgun, on engineer specifically.
Engi’s Widowmaker (provided I can hit all my shots)
Stock scattergun doesn’t punish you for missing shots
The fuckin reload time and delay between shots after you've run out...
Yes, but widowmaker takes metal, sg just reloads
When u find a ano pack you don't have to reload
Scattergun has bigger close range ramp-up
The Loose Cannon paired with the Tide Turner
Stock scattergun takes 1 slot, that combo takes 2 slots
The Force A' Nature is great and all that, But the scattergun is more rounded up.
But the Scattergun can't do a triple jump without the winger or the Atomizer.
The fan triple jump requires reloading and the atomizer
Still nonetheless its better in terms of escaping using jumps in my opinion.
*The soda popper is excused*
Or Just have a habit of going to different areas in tf2 and trying to see if thats specific spot has a box that I can stand on.
Gunslinger, my cute little gun is cuter than your little gun.
Spy stock knive
Scattergun isn’t melee
Force a' Nature
Scattergun doesn’t push enemies out of your effective range
You wouldn't say the reload time of FoN outweighs that?
You still need to run up again
You’re the third person in the last minute to write this
I didn’t know it was that popular
Stock SG doesn’t have self-damage
Damn, he just invalidated every one of his launchers at once.
the stock wrench
Scattergun. I am not saying this just to troll it looks amazing,deals a good amount of damage and war paints look amazing on it
Strange serverkilling Killstreak scattergun
Weird projectile arc
Scattergun has no damage penalty
No festive variant
The market Gardener
Sg isn’t melee
The scattergun is a better shotgun anyway
i drink paint
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I bleed cum
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Force a nature
Faster rockets, less rocket jump damage, more ammo, cool sound effect
Scattergun has a botkiller variant
Why use flame when have gun
Good point but